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(17:00:17) lxmaier: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule
(17:00:20) [splinux]: yo tchung, thanks for my email adress ;-)
(17:00:21) lxmaier: roll call please
(17:00:26) lxmaier: AlexMaier
(17:00:31) GeroldKa: GeroldKassube
(17:00:33) tchung: no problem. [splinux]
(17:00:38) tchung: ThomasChung
(17:00:40) ke4qqq: DavidNalley
(17:00:45) MrTom: ThomasCanniot
(17:00:51) [splinux]: DamienDurand
(17:01:00) FrancescoUgolini: FrancescoUgolini
(17:01:28) lxmaier: is that it? oh well, let's look at the schedule :)
(17:01:28) lxmaier: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Schedule
(17:01:58) lxmaier: item 1: Review upcoming events (90 days)
(17:02:10) lxmaier: Mar 12, 2006   Local organisation,  AREL    France, Revin
(17:02:10) lxmaier: Explanation of "what is a free software?" + Demo
of FC5 with Kadischi + Flyers.
(17:02:10) lxmaier: This event is announced  here on the  agenda du
libre website   ThomasCanniot    Everything is ready from the event
organizer
(17:02:20) lxmaier: MrTom: your floor
(17:02:23) MrTom: it's for me yes
(17:02:36) lxmaier: how does it look MrTom?
(17:02:51) MrTom: well i just learned about this event this week...
but everything seems to be ok for the moment
(17:02:58) lxmaier: great
(17:03:07) tchung: MrTom, do you need any Media?
(17:03:11) lxmaier: will you have any printed material or media?
(17:03:14) MrTom: i won't be able to take my computer and i will only
be able to show fedora through livecd
(17:03:42) lxmaier: will you have a booth? will you present at the
booth or somewhere else?
(17:03:44) MrTom: i will use the flyer in french, for the media it's
far too late :s
(17:03:45) tchung: MrTom, is that FC5T3 LiveCD ?
(17:03:54) MrTom: tchung, yes
(17:04:12) MrTom: lxmaier, it will be abooth for a complete
organisation, not only for fedora
(17:04:28) MrTom: the organisation will promote free software and i
will promote fc among them
(17:04:29) lxmaier: for your local lug MrTom?
(17:04:40) lxmaier: or what organization is it MrTom?
(17:05:11) MrTom: the local lug does not exist yet on this area in
France, but people are working on it
(17:05:47) lxmaier: so what is this AREL do?
(17:06:02) ***lxmaier does not speak French :)
(17:06:13) lxmaier: so the web link is nice, but does not help me :)
(17:06:44) MrTom: AREL is an organisation that works for education and
entertainment
(17:07:14) MrTom: they are organising the event on sunday, which will
bring many organisation of the area
(17:07:27) lxmaier: great
(17:07:39) gregdek_home [n=gregdek@cpe-071-070-223-190.nc.res.rr.com]
entered the room.
(17:07:43) ***gregdek_home hullos.
(17:07:43) tchung: well, good luck MrTom!
(17:07:44) lxmaier: are they government-run or private? MrTom?
(17:07:56) MrTom: lxmaier, private
(17:08:27) MrTom: i'll take photos as in FOSDEM, as much as i can
(17:08:34) ***lxmaier still has not quite understood the nature of the
event and the organization running it, but i guess MrTom knows best :)
(17:08:52) MrTom: lxmaier, i'm sorry but it's quite a strange situation :)
(17:08:52) puneet_batura: hi all :)
(17:09:25) [splinux]: hey puneet_batura
(17:09:25) lxmaier: MrTom: okay, fill us all in after the event--in a
nice report :)
(17:09:31) lxmaier: MrTom: can we move on?
(17:09:38) MrTom: yes we can :)
(17:10:01) lxmaier: Mar 13-16, 2006   Jornada de Divulgacion   
Bogota, Colombia - A whole day organized for an Recognized University
in Colombia for conferences on subjects related to Open Source
Software as well as telecommunications, medical artificial
intelligence and computer science. It will have universities of the
country and the world.  http://www.sistemasunbosque.edu.co  and 
http://www.equisl.org   JoseTarazona    See  JornadaDivulgacion
(17:10:14) lxmaier: owner not present?
(17:10:17) tchung: He's not present.
(17:10:43) puneet_batura: [splinux], nice to see u... :)
(17:10:44) tchung: I guess we need to contact him offline
(17:11:12) BobJensen: BobJensen here
(17:11:12) puneet_batura: roll call- PuneetBatura.. :)
(17:11:26) lxmaier: thanks for joining puneet_batura, BobJensen
(17:11:31) lxmaier: let's move on
(17:11:36) BobJensen: lxmaier: Jack was not going to be able to make
it, asked me to pass on the message
(17:11:37) lxmaier: Mar 18-19, 2006   Fedora Core Open Days   The
first event of this kind in Poland. It will be a conference connected
with users and sympathizers meeting, setting Fedora promotion as a
main goal. Rybnik, Poland.   MateuszHalaba
(17:11:37) lxmaier: PawelSadowski   If anyone is interesting in
participating, please contact one of the ambassadors involved.
Official site:  http://fcod.b7.pl.
BobJensen Bob-Laptop
(17:11:43) mjbrej [n=mjbrej@70.134.91.76] entered the room.
(17:11:46) lxmaier: BobJensen: thanks
(17:12:05) lxmaier: pawel and mattheusz not present
(17:12:07) lxmaier: moving on
(17:12:17) lxmaier: Mar 18-19, 2006   glugc FLOSS Meet 2006  
GNU/Linux Users Group Calicut (glugc) ( 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/glugc ) has been working inside the
campus to promote FOSS. glugc successfully conducted FLOSS Meet 2005,
a seminar on Free/Libre and Open Source Software. NIT Calicut is
participating in FOSS Month 2006 (glugc FLOSS Meet 2006 will be a part
of the FOSS Month celebrations).   KushalDas   Kushal will conduct the
BoF
(17:12:42) lxmaier: i guess kushal is asleep :) must be late where he lives :)
(17:12:44) lxmaier: moving on
(17:12:51) lxmaier: Mar 25, 2006   FLISOL 2006 (Brazil - DF)   FLISOL
stands as Latin-America's Free Software Installation Festival (
http://test.installfest.info/FliSol), and aims to install as many
systems with Linux and free software. Also, there is minu-courses and
speakings. It happens in many cities and countries and happens in the
same day.   HugoCisneiros   HugoCisneiros will present a talk about
the Fedora Project and will distribute Fedora LiveCDs in Brasilia, DF
( local page)
(17:12:58) lxmaier: hugo?
(17:13:07) tchung: He's new. :)
(17:13:21) lxmaier: is he in the meetingtoday?
(17:13:30) lxmaier: does not seem to be
(17:13:31) tchung: I'm afraid now
(17:13:36) tchung: s/now/not/
(17:13:36) lxmaier: moving on
(17:13:46) lxmaier: Apr 3-6, 2006   LinuxWorld Boston 2006   Boston,
MA, USA -  LinuxWorld US
(17:13:46) lxmaier: See LinuxWorld/LinuxWorldBoston2006.   MatthewMiller
(17:13:46) lxmaier: JackAboutboul   He will contact JesseKeating or
local PC vendor about hardware needed for the booth.
(17:13:46) lxmaier: He will conatct JackAboutboul about registering
for free booth.     Apr 7, 2006   FUDCon Boston 2006   Boston, MA, USA
- Sequel to the first FUDCon.
(17:13:46) lxmaier: See FUDCon/FUDConBoston2006.   MatthewMiller
(17:13:46) lxmaier: JackAboutboul   We're still looking for speakers and  papers
(17:13:46) lxmaier: Help wanted. Greg and Alex will support wherever they can.
gregdek gregdek_home
(17:13:57) lxmaier: gregdek_home: please give us an update
greendisease gregdek gregdek_home
gregdek gregdek_home
(17:14:30) lxmaier: ping gregdek_home
(17:14:38) tchung: greendisease ?
(17:14:48) gregdek_home: Here, sorry.
(17:14:56) lxmaier: you hav ethe floor
(17:14:57) gregdek_home: We've got a full slate of speakers.
(17:15:08) gregdek_home: Just need to update the page accordingly and
start advertising.
(17:15:29) gregdek_home: If Jack doesn't pick this up in the next day
or two, I've got it.
(17:15:52) lxmaier: great
(17:15:59) lxmaier: what about LWE?
gregdek gregdek_home
(17:16:33) lxmaier: gregdek_home: ?
gregdek gregdek_home
(17:17:16) tchung: lxmaier, I've been working with Jack on Wiki page
so I'll contact him again for the Schedule
(17:17:52) lxmaier: great
greendisease gregdek gregdek_home
(17:18:14) lxmaier: okay, i guess there will be no more update on LWE
from gregdek_home today
(17:18:18) lxmaier: moving on
(17:18:20) lxmaier: Apr 11, 2006   Local LUG - Campux   France, Lille.
  ThomasCanniot   Have to translate presentation, and don't think i
need any schwag. 20-25 people will be attending.
tchung thl
(17:18:25) lxmaier: MrTom:
(17:18:39) MrTom: ok, aurelien bompard send me his french presentation
(17:18:55) MrTom: i will certainly switch to the new template we had on the list
(17:19:11) lxmaier: wonderful
(17:19:21) MrTom: i don't think new fc5 media will be ready for this
date, if they can, i may ask for some
(17:19:24) gregdek_home: Doh.
(17:19:53) gregdek_home: Sorry... LWCE is all set too.
(17:20:08) tchung: thank you gregdek_home
(17:20:11) MrTom: however, it will be the same receipe, flyers, livecd ... :)
(17:20:24) lxmaier: MrTom: this is a good recipe
(17:20:42) MrTom: lxmaier, will fc5 be ready for this event or not?
(17:20:43) tchung: MrTom, make sure to distribute FC5 DVDs
(17:21:09) lxmaier: MrTom: probably not
(17:21:11) MrTom: if media are not available i'll burn some dvd myself
(17:21:20) MrTom: alright then
(17:21:20) lxmaier: MrTom: yeah, that would make most sense
(17:21:21) tchung: that's the idea MrTom !
(17:21:41) MrTom: tchung, ok
(17:21:44) lxmaier: MrTom: can we move on?
(17:21:54) MrTom: we can love :)
(17:22:04) GeroldKa: love lxmaier ?
(17:22:08) GeroldKa: once again?!
(17:22:15) GeroldKa: we've did it two weeks ago
(17:22:17) lxmaier: Apr 19-22, 2006   FISL 7.0   Porto Alegre, RS,
Brazil -  7th International Free Software Forum
(17:22:17) lxmaier: This is the biggest conference for IT
Infrastructure and Developers in Brazil.
(17:22:17) lxmaier: See  FISL for more description.    RodrigoPadula  
  See  FISL for status.
(17:22:18) MrTom: i'm kidding ;)
(17:22:18) tchung: oh no, not again. :)
(17:22:32) lxmaier: let's all love tchung for a change :)
(17:22:36) lxmaier: ;)
(17:22:45) GeroldKa: ok; then one round love for tchung
(17:22:45) lxmaier: okay, but seriously:
(17:22:46) lxmaier: Apr 19-22, 2006   FISL 7.0   Porto Alegre, RS,
Brazil -  7th International Free Software Forum
(17:22:46) lxmaier: This is the biggest conference for IT
Infrastructure and Developers in Brazil.
(17:22:46) lxmaier: See  FISL for more description.    RodrigoPadula  
  See  FISL for status.
(17:22:55) tchung: :)
(17:22:57) puneet_batura: tchung, love.....:)
(17:23:09) tchung: hug puneet_batura :)
(17:23:23) lxmaier: rodrigo isn't here and nobody from his region is
(17:23:29) GeroldKa: :-(
(17:23:31) lxmaier: let us move on to the next event
(17:23:39) lxmaier: May 3-6, 2006   LinuxTag/FUDCon Wiesbaden 2006  
Wiesbaden, Germany -  LinuxTag Germany
(17:23:39) lxmaier:  See FUDCon/FUDConWiesbaden2006    GeroldKassube
(17:23:39) lxmaier: FlorianBrand   help wanted and needed
(17:23:39) lxmaier: afaik there should be the next FUDCon similiar to
the second FUDCon we ever had FUDCon/FUDCon2
(17:23:46) lxmaier: GeroldKa: your report
(17:23:53) GeroldKa: no more at this time
(17:24:03) GeroldKa: same state as in the mailing list
(17:24:17) GeroldKa: we don't have the booth really approved by Linuxtag
(17:24:31) GeroldKa: and I'm not really sure; we should attend
(17:24:52) lxmaier: but we are working on this
(17:24:58) tchung: GeroldKa, is it a money issue?
(17:25:02) lxmaier: so the life does not quite suck that bad
(17:25:05) GeroldKa: yes it is
(17:25:18) GeroldKa: but all; ....
(17:25:26) lxmaier: tchung: linuxtag is blackmailing us to make sure
red hat pays up
(17:25:36) tchung: :(
(17:25:47) BobJensen: lol
(17:25:48) lxmaier: we are working to some funding from rhat
(17:26:09) GeroldKa: but they want to get a big amount
(17:26:21) lxmaier: and also i have a contact to a large corporation,
hope they will throw us a chunk of money too
(17:26:33) lxmaier: yeah, it is not all rosy at the momen
(17:26:39) lxmaier: but here is a good news
(17:26:42) puneet_batura: i was thinking for arranging virtual meets
of our respective LUGS on IRC and then invite other countries
ambassadors in the meet and then they will speak on fedora to them and
hence we will spread the word fedora at large
(17:26:54) puneet_batura: so whats u r opinion people?
(17:26:57) lxmaier:  I have a tentative okay for holding the FUDCon at
the Heinrich Heine
(17:26:57) lxmaier: University of Duesseldorf--which leaves us with
more options, shall
(17:26:57) lxmaier: LinuxTag decide to be uncooperative.
(17:27:09) tchung: puneet_batura, please wait your turn please
(17:27:44) GeroldKa: for me it's very difficult to have the contact to Linuxtag
(17:27:52) puneet_batura: tchung, sure ....
(17:28:02) GeroldKa: because they don't know me and they want to see
money from Linuxtag
(17:28:10) GeroldKa: s/Linuxtag/Red Hat
(17:28:25) gregdek_home: We need to make a call.
(17:28:32) GeroldKa: and I belive if they don't see money from Red Hat
they'll say ...
(17:28:40) GeroldKa: you're not a free project
(17:28:44) gregdek_home: And it sounds like LinuxTag is going to be an
Ubuntu love fest anyway.
(17:28:48) GeroldKa: you have to pay; otherwise
(17:29:19) GeroldKa: yes indeed gregdek there is in every case an Ubuntu - event
(17:29:36) gregdek_home: So here's my question:
(17:29:41) GeroldKa: and I belive they love the money from canonical
more than free open projects
(17:29:43) lxmaier: yeah, the whole story is disappointing, but we are
not running out of options, so we're cool
(17:29:48) gregdek_home: Would we rather try to put on a Fedora-only event?
(17:29:58) lxmaier: we do not need linuxtag to love us :) let them love ubuntu
(17:29:59) nman64: A competing even?
(17:30:06) ke4qqq: typically in the US when con organizers behave
badly like that forking the event normally takes care of things.
(17:30:11) nman64: s/even/event/
(17:30:16) lxmaier: nman64: a fudcon at a university, like in boston
(17:30:18) gregdek_home: nman64: Not on the same date, no.
(17:30:34) puneet_batura: exactly FOss is not a single entity like ubuntu...
(17:30:37) GeroldKa: so we cancel Linuxtag by ourself???!
(17:30:50) lxmaier: as noted above, the university of duesseldorf will
be happy to have us
(17:30:55) ke4qqq: gregdek_home: why not on the same date???
(17:30:56) GeroldKa: before they give us the "bad news" that there's
no place for us?
(17:31:01) puneet_batura: everyone has a right to represent and if
biased then the event has to be compromised.. :)
(17:31:11) gregdek_home: ke4qqq: I think it's poor sportsmanship to
hold a competing event.  :)
(17:31:13) nman64: I think that's an option worth pursuing.
(17:31:13) lxmaier: ke4qqq: we cannot have it on the same date so we
have more attendees
(17:31:31) GeroldKa: oh one word again to this issue
(17:31:41) gregdek_home: We don't want to make the community choose --
but we do want our own event, our own way, and I don't think we should
submit to being blackmailed.
gregdek gregdek_home
(17:31:54) GeroldKa: openSuSE has the same problem as we
(17:31:56) nman64: gregdek_home: +1
(17:31:58) lxmaier: gregdek_home: yeah, i second that
(17:32:12) lxmaier: and we have a place to go too :)
(17:32:13) GeroldKa: +10
(17:32:29) GeroldKa: why not together with opensuse?
(17:32:31) gregdek_home: So if LinuxTag wants to be the DebianFest for
Germany, that's their right.
(17:32:34) GeroldKa: back to the roots
(17:32:38) lxmaier: GeroldKa: moving on?
(17:32:39) nman64: In the spirit of cooperation, perhaps we should
involve OpenSuSE in our planning.
(17:32:45) gregdek_home: Hmm.
(17:32:50) GeroldKa: just an idea ...
(17:32:51) gregdek_home: That could be really interesting.
(17:32:58) ke4qqq: at least offer.....maybe get some novell money to
have a bigger draw
(17:33:00) GeroldKa: debian is also not at Linuxtag
(17:33:03) gregdek_home: ...
(17:33:04) ke4qqq: besides DE is suse's home turf
(17:33:09) gregdek_home: DEBIAN is not at Linuxtag?
(17:33:11) GeroldKa: opensuse will also not be registered till today
greendisease gregdek gregdek_home
(17:33:26) gregdek_home: Then who IS at Linuxtag?
(17:33:26) GeroldKa: jepp gregdek
(17:33:34) puneet_batura: even my project competing at Linux Tag ... :)
(17:33:34) lxmaier: UBUNTU
(17:33:37) gregdek_home: Wow.
(17:33:39) GeroldKa: 50 invited open source projects
(17:33:51) gregdek_home: Well...
(17:33:51) GeroldKa: but not OpenSuse, Novell, Debian
(17:33:56) puneet_batura: still under review but yes atleast i have
demonstrated to greg...:)
(17:33:57) gregdek_home: ...maybe we should invite Debian.
(17:33:58) GeroldKa: Fedora, Red Hat
(17:34:05) GeroldKa: hey ...
(17:34:08) gregdek_home: Fedora + Debian at a show.
(17:34:14) gregdek_home: Now THAT would be *really* interesting.
(17:34:19) gregdek_home: And NOT Ubuntu.
(17:34:24) GeroldKa: www.debconf.org I belive is the correct URL
(17:34:50) nman64: Perhaps a cooperative effort among those
distributions could produce a better event that better represents
FOSS.
(17:35:06) lxmaier: okay, do you think we should discuss it on the list
(17:35:07) lxmaier: ?
(17:35:07) GeroldKa: yes the URl is correct ...
(17:35:13) puneet_batura: nmab64,+1
(17:35:17) gregdek_home: Yeah.  Let's hash it out on-list.
(17:35:18) GeroldKa: debconf startet may 6th in Mexico
(17:35:21) nman64: lxmaier: Definitely.
(17:35:26) lxmaier: let us move on--we only have 25 minutes left
(17:35:38) lxmaier: == == == moving on == == ==
(17:35:50) lxmaier: May 15-16, 2006   LinuxWorld Italy 2006   Milan,
Italy -  LinuxWorld Italy   AndreaMaurizioGnerre   Andrea has
contacted the organization of the event. They moved to a sponsorized
event format. I have prices for that if anybody is interested.
(17:35:50) GeroldKa: so excuse I haev to wake up in 4,5 hours for
catching train to Cebit
(17:35:58) FrancescoUgolini: this is my turn
(17:36:01) GeroldKa: n8 @ all
(17:36:03) lxmaier: FrancescoUgolini: any news from andrea?
(17:36:07) FrancescoUgolini: i've talk with maurizio
(17:36:19) FrancescoUgolini: i don't know some of specific
(17:36:34) puneet_batura: GeroldKa, its already 4 a.m here... :)
(17:36:53) FrancescoUgolini: i've only started to talk about the
problem, but we are discussing about this event
(17:37:38) FrancescoUgolini: i will tell about this event in the m-list
(17:37:46) tchung: FrancescoUgolini, please contat him and let us know
the latestest status offline
(17:37:47) FrancescoUgolini: in a few day
(17:38:04) lxmaier: okay
(17:38:08) FrancescoUgolini: tchung,  ok
(17:38:08) lxmaier: moving on?
(17:38:11) FrancescoUgolini: yep
(17:38:28) lxmaier: we are finished with the events for the next 90 days
(17:38:41) lxmaier: item 2 of the schedule
(17:38:43) lxmaier:  Promotional material for Kadischi     DavidNalley
    Time critical. Within 10 days maximum. Will have to be ready for
FC5    Compilation of material like presentations, help and videos
would good
(17:38:47) lxmaier: ke4qqq:
(17:38:51) ke4qqq: 2 videos are done....
(17:38:55) ke4qqq: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Kadischi/Videos
(17:38:58) lxmaier: you guys rock!
(17:39:01) ke4qqq: and the balance should be up tonight
(17:39:21) ke4qqq: additional promotional materials for inclusion on
the livecd will hopefully be up for review tonight/tomorrow morning
(17:39:52) lxmaier: great, ke4qqq!
(17:39:53) ke4qqq: and thats it from me
(17:39:57) lxmaier: moving on
(17:39:59) lxmaier: item 3
(17:40:05) lxmaier:  A tour at 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Tours/FedoraCore5    RahulSundaram
(17:40:05) lxmaier: FrancescoUgolini
(17:40:05) lxmaier:  and anyone interested     Time critical. Within
10 days maximum. Will have to be ready for FC5      detail
(17:40:08) lxmaier: mether
(17:40:09) FrancescoUgolini: i have post the banner in the m-list, i'm
working on it. If is possible i would to know if it's the good way
(17:40:10) lxmaier: FrancescoUgolini:
(17:40:18) tchung: mether, ping
(17:40:21) lxmaier: schweet
(17:40:23) lxmaier: :)
(17:41:08) lxmaier: FrancescoUgolini: i hoe you are getting enough
feedback on the list
(17:41:13) puneet_batura: FrancescoUgolini, Great effort!.. :)
(17:41:16) tchung: FrancescoUgolini, can you attach what you working
on the wiki?
(17:41:28) lxmaier: you might also consider posting to
fedora-marketing-list FrancescoUgolini
(17:41:47) lxmaier: post a link to your wiki on both lists
(17:41:51) FrancescoUgolini: yes i do this after i finsh to install
the system update
(17:41:57) lxmaier: good
(17:41:57) tchung: yes, email the wiki link instead of actual attachments
(17:42:08) lxmaier: moving on?
(17:42:21) lxmaier: 3
(17:42:23) lxmaier: 2
(17:42:25) lxmaier: 1
(17:42:30) lxmaier: next item
(17:42:35) lxmaier: Video contest    AlexMaier    Shortly after FC5
release   Announce and conduct a short video contest.
(17:42:35) lxmaier: What we need to figure out:
(17:42:35) lxmaier:  - Format (currently OGG, all agree?)
(17:42:35) lxmaier:  - Max file size (currently 10M, all agree?)
(17:42:35) lxmaier:  - Submission guidelines (AlexMaier needs to draft)
(17:42:35) lxmaier:  - Prize (no idea, but needs to be spiffy and not
too expensive)
(17:42:52) lxmaier: i have a half-finished draft
(17:42:59) lxmaier: i need to finish it and submit to the list
(17:43:11) fusion94: so question is do we care about file size or movie length ?
(17:43:19) tchung: lxmaier, I just created a short video, I'll send
you a preview later :)
(17:43:38) lxmaier: file size is an effective way to limit length fusion94
(17:43:42) MrTom: tchung, could we watch it as weel ? :)
(17:43:45) lxmaier: tchung: please do!
(17:43:58) fusion94: i would argue that
(17:44:12) tchung: it's kinda cheesy but let you know when it's done.
(17:44:27) puneet_batura: tchung, btw the videos made by you earlier
was also nice.. :)
(17:44:38) tchung: thanks puneet_batura
(17:44:40) lxmaier: fusion94: please state your name for the protocol
(17:44:51) lxmaier: fusion94: are you an ambassador?
(17:44:55) fusion94: TonyGuntharp and yes
(17:45:01) lxmaier: fusion94: thank you
(17:45:02) tchung: He's new!
(17:45:18) lxmaier: tchung: we have been seeing tons of new people join lately!
(17:45:18) fusion94: :)
(17:45:20) lxmaier: :)
(17:45:28) tchung: :)
(17:45:41) tchung: been busy. :)
(17:45:41) gregdek_home: :)
(17:45:43) gregdek_home: :)
(17:45:47) lxmaier: so fusion94: why do you think limiting file size
is not a good idea?
(17:46:23) BobJensen: lxmaier: I think the point is file size has
little to do with length
(17:46:36) fusion94: i just think it should perhaps be more along the
lines of the Firefox Movie contest where clip length is the one of the
primary criteria
(17:46:41) fusion94: instead of file size
(17:47:07) gregdek_home: +1
(17:47:21) lxmaier: whatever--provided we have unlimited storage  :)
(17:47:23) BobJensen: lxmaier: a video 40x30 will be much longer than
a 320x280 video
(17:47:26) ke4qqq: +1
(17:47:26) lxmaier: tchung: do we?
(17:47:31) tchung: fusion94, would you agree with 15mins or less?
(17:47:32) nman64: Well, file size is really not a reliable way to
limit length, but I'm more worried about size than length.
(17:47:42) fusion94: i would limit it to 5 minutes...
(17:47:50) fusion94: as peoples attention spans are rather short
(17:47:50) tchung: ok 10mins or less
(17:47:56) BobJensen: and also a suggested resolution
(17:48:02) fusion94: what were we discussing again ?
(17:48:05) lxmaier: nman64: my concern exactly--it will be the
artist's choice--good quality, or huge lenght
(17:48:17) lxmaier: and 10MB cannot be all that long of a movie
(17:48:27) sm|CPU left the room (quit: Connection reset by peer).
(17:48:38) fusion94: there some probably be some minimum quality
standards as well
(17:48:42) ke4qqq: but if we have good quality we can downsample to
what we want....maybe we ought to specify quality
(17:49:00) lxmaier: ke4qqq: who will edit the videos?
(17:49:09) ***lxmaier wants a finished product
(17:49:20) puneet_batura: fusion94, one has to look for an optimal
quality with a specific file size..
(17:49:22) lxmaier: and no work for us, except to watch and judge
(17:49:24) fusion94: and how much storage we potentially needing ?
(17:49:32) ke4qqq: probably the end person creating
(17:49:39) puneet_batura: fusion94, and length.. :)
(17:50:53) ke4qqq: anyone know how many entries firefox's contest drew??
(17:51:13) nman64: Most of Red Hat short promotional videos are 5-8
MiB, so 10 MiB should be generous for decent quality and a reasonable
length.
(17:51:18) fusion94: still running until 3/31/2006
(17:51:23) BobJensen: IMO there should be at least 2 quality criteria,
Length, resolution
(17:51:38) fusion94: BobJensen: +1
(17:51:42) tchung: well, lxmaier should we move on? 9mins left
(17:51:48) lxmaier: okay, let's move on
(17:51:59) lxmaier: Schwag pipeline and a Standard Ambassadors
Survival Kit    GregDeKoenigsberg    End of March 2006   Need to make
sure that the schwag pipeline is functional. This is separate from the
actual stuff we send; this is just making sure that the stuff we send
actually gets to the places it needs to go.
(17:51:59) lxmaier: We need a standard "kit" for all Ambassadors;
DVDs, promotional materials, and schwag
gregdek gregdek_home
(17:52:11) lxmaier: gregdek_home: your floor
(17:52:29) tchung: gregdek_home, ping
(17:53:26) tchung: he must have stepped out again. :)
(17:53:52) lxmaier: okay
(17:53:56) lxmaier: let's move on
(17:54:13) lxmaier: Standard design elements for all Fedora pages   
AlexMaier    April 1, 2006   Need to create a set of design elements
such as backgrounds, icons, CSS style sheets, etc for use across all
Fedora-affilliated pages to improve the brand identity
(17:54:17) puneet_batura: for video contest we can have a look at
http://www.firefoxflicks.com/adcontest/ :)
(17:54:29) lxmaier: i have it all dome almost
(17:55:03) lxmaier: we will soon have photoshop files for a set of
unified icons and buttons and backgrounds and such for use on all
fedora pages
(17:55:03) tchung: I noticed the latest OOo impress has Fedora Template in FC5T3
(17:55:06) ***gregdek_home is back.
(17:55:10) BobJensen: photoshop?
(17:55:13) nman64: lxmaier: Have you spoken with Diana and other
members of the Artwork team?
(17:55:17) nman64: Photoshop?
(17:55:21) lxmaier: i paln to give them away to anyone who wnats to
run a fedora-affiliated site
(17:55:36) lxmaier: nman64: yea, so they remain editable
(17:55:44) nman64: Why not SVG?
(17:55:44) BobJensen: what does this have to do with Ambassadors?
(17:55:51) lxmaier: we will edit them and store on t\our site fos
download as pngs or so
(17:56:12) lxmaier: BobJensen: it has to do with ambassadors who run
fedora pages on their own
(17:56:31) lxmaier: soon they will be able to make their pages look like fedora
(17:56:33) puneet_batura: lxmaier, Whats the criteria for fedora
affiliated websites?
(17:56:40) BobJensen: shouldn't such a project be addressed by the
marketing list for input?
(17:56:44) lxmaier: puneet_batura: very loose i suppose :)
BobJensen Bob-Laptop
(17:57:27) ***puneet_batura wonders if we have one.... :)
(17:57:46) MrTom: too bad we are updating fedora-france.org template
for fc5 release :(
(17:57:50) lxmaier: we can define the criteria as we wish later
(17:58:12) lxmaier: MrTom: no worries, you will be able to implement
the design elements at any time
(17:58:31) lxmaier: we also plan to create a suggested css style sheet
(17:58:36) tchung: Sorry about my previous comment. It was meant for
"Presentations for Ambassadors"
(17:59:01) nman64: lxmaier: All of this could be rendered a lot less
useful by our CMS work.
(17:59:10) BobJensen: nman64: +1
(17:59:40) lxmaier: sopwith is informed and was present at most meetings
(17:59:59) BobJensen: IMO this goes far beyond the scope of the
ambassadors project and should be discuess on the public marketing
list
(17:59:59) lxmaier: nman64: we made sure all elements can be used on
any platform
(18:00:06) nman64: Standardized style elements are an inherent part of Plone.
(18:00:09) lxmaier: this was the goal, actually
(18:00:20) tchung: +1 Bob-Laptop
(18:00:37) nman64: BobJensen: +1
(18:00:52) nman64: This is something of concern to the Marketing list
and to the Websites team.
(18:00:55) lxmaier: okay, we'll move this to the list
(18:00:59) nman64: And is already duplicating effort.
(18:01:09) lxmaier: just thought you guys would be interested in progress
gregdek gregdek_home
(18:01:24) lxmaier: gregdek_home: are you there?
(18:01:30) BobJensen: many discussions that are taking place under the
Ambassadors umbrella should be under the larger marketing list in
public
BobJensen Bob-Laptop
(18:01:43) tchung: gregdek, gregdek_home ping
(18:01:58) lxmaier: okay, then i guess we will have no update on this item:
(18:01:59) lxmaier: Decide on format for new DVDs    GregDeKoenigsberg
   Before FC5 GA    We need to decide what 'format' we want the new
DVDs in. We have a requirement to have the source provided on/with the
DVDs we distribute. Need to decide how we're going to do this -
current feelings are for a double-sided DVD, but this means the loss
of the Fedora logo.
(18:02:15) lxmaier: let's move on to the..
(18:02:16) lxmaier: Presentations for Ambassadors    RahulSundaram   
Standing item   We need to provide Ambassadors with some slide decks
for various presentations. We should probably aggregate the ones we
already have and make them available. We should also figure out our
policy for licensing these presentations!
(18:02:23) lxmaier: mether: ?
(18:02:53) lxmaier: okay, no discussion here
(18:03:12) lxmaier: chitlesh is not here either so we'll skip fedora libraries
(18:03:25) lxmaier: puneet_batura requested 2 minutes
(18:03:28) gregdek_home: We've already got plenty of these.
(18:03:29) tchung: lxmaier, I think puneet_batura has a proposal
(18:03:30) lxmaier: puneet_batura: here you go
(18:03:49) puneet_batura: i was thinking for arranging virtual meets
of our respective LUGS on IRC and then invite other countries
ambassadors in the meet and then they will speak on fedora to them and
hence we will spread the word fedora at large
(18:03:49) tchung: go ahead puneet_batura
(18:03:54) lxmaier: puneet_batura: ?
(18:04:10) puneet_batura: so any views on thaat?
(18:04:41) lxmaier: seems like there are no comments at this time puneet_batura
(18:05:00) lxmaier: why don't you introduce this as a topic on the mailing list?
(18:05:09) puneet_batura: yes ok make it offline....
(18:05:10) tchung: well, puneet_batura can you explain in detail on the list?
(18:05:10) puneet_batura: :)
(18:05:15) gregdek_home: More detail is better.
(18:05:19) lxmaier: if you find enough interested folks, add it to the schedule
(18:05:23) puneet_batura: sure will do that.. :)
(18:05:25) lxmaier: okay
(18:05:35) lxmaier: we have covered all topics.
(18:05:43) lxmaier: the meeting is officially adjourned
(18:05:48) lxmaier: thanks everyone
(18:05:56) lxmaier: i will send out a summary later
(18:05:57) tchung: Thak you for all coming to the meeting
(18:06:05) tchung: See you next week!
(18:06:06) puneet_batura: thank you all :)
(18:06:09) lxmaier: and i will mail the transcript to tchung for
immediate posting

